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Post by magic8ball on Jul 9, 2003 13:39:11 GMT 11
I was considering recommending this to the show selection committee at my theatre based on my love of the concept album and the notion that the MTI version was the redeemed Post-Broadway Tour version as opposed to the Broadway J&H massacre. I went to MTI's website and looked at the song listing and was pleasantly surprised to find that a lot of the material from the concept album had been reinserted into the show. I just wanted to know more specifically what was added/omitted before I make a recommendation that I'll later regret. Also, there is a song listed called "Angst 2"- is this the Broadway version's "The Way Back" (or the concept album's "No One Must Ever Know")? Thanks for any information you can give.  And am I the only one who still misses "The World Has Gone Insane" and "Girls of the Night"?  |
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Post by Talissa on Jul 9, 2003 21:14:13 GMT 11
Since J&H hasn't yet been performed in Australia as far as I know, I don't know what the MTI version is like, but it sounds as if it would be quite similar to the Japanese and Spanish versions, which are both good steps up from the Broadway version (not that that's hard), if not quite ideal. I think Angst sounds like "No One Must Ever Know". There's one in the Spanish called "Anguish" (I think. I don't actually know Spanish) which is like that, so I think they might be similar. It's a pity they don't have "The World Has Gone Insane" and "Girls of the Night", but I suppose neither of those two was entirely crucial to the story, though they do provide nice extra information and are, of course, wonderful songs. I think my theatre company was actually considering doing J&H next year, but they decided against it. I'm hoping their "phantom of an idea" for the following year may be J&H, though. If not, it's bound to be done in Melbourne before long anyway. Well, that was very much talk for very little information  ~Julia |
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Post by Tinechorwen on Jul 10, 2003 12:37:44 GMT 11
I've noticed that alot of J&H songs are like that, beautiful...but they don't really have ALOT of purpose. There must be ALOT of dialogue in the middle, because alot of the songs are really just exploring how the characters are feeling, This is the moment, Someone like you, Once upon a dream, Take me as I am, A new life....I'm sure the list goes on. But then again, Murder Murder is a pretty dam good song, and it certainly pushes the plot forward. Then again, Les Mis has some gushy numbers as well now that I think of it, so it's possibly just me. |
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Post by magic8ball on Jul 10, 2003 15:07:12 GMT 11
I've noticed that alot of J&H songs are like that, beautiful...but they don't really have ALOT of purpose. There must be ALOT of dialogue in the middle, because alot of the songs are really just exploring how the characters are feeling, This is the moment, Someone like you, Once upon a dream, Take me as I am, A new life....I'm sure the list goes on. Then again, Les Mis has some gushy numbers as well now that I think of it, so it's possibly just me. No, it's not just you. The score is full of beautiful but ultimately trivial songs that do nothing whatsoever to further the plot. And, yes, there is a hefty amount of dialogue. I assume length is the reason they insist on cutting good songs from the score... it's so aggravating. If my theatre did put this show on, I think that there's a good chance we would attempt to insert the previously mentioned songs... however, I can't imagine "The World Has Gone Insane" without a synthesizer track...  -John |
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Post by Talissa on Jul 10, 2003 18:22:07 GMT 11
One thing I've noticed listening to the 1994 Concept (Warlow's one) is that it feels as if there are a few more songs for Lucy than are entirely necessary. Even if Wildhorn does like writing for Linda Eder, it should at least be kept within reason.
~Julia
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Post by Tinechorwen on Jul 10, 2003 22:34:01 GMT 11
*nods* yeah I noticed that too. They obviously love her, casting her in all their musicals, and fair enough because she does have a pretty amazing voice. But a couple of her J&H ones could have been cut, I'm not sure that she needed A new life and Someone like you, even though I wouldn't want to cut either out because both are beautiful.
And the sympathy, tenderness theme that she sings? Where did that come from? Completely unnecessary as she goes on to sing Someone like you which is her big confession of love.
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Post by magic8ball on Jul 11, 2003 1:45:21 GMT 11
*nods* yeah I noticed that too. They obviously love her, casting her in all their musicals, Isn't she married to one of them?  I would agree that "Sympathy, Tenderness" is unnecessary; however, I think that it's worth keeping in the show because Hyde's reprise of it when he kills Lucy is superbly creepy... |
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Post by Talissa on Jul 11, 2003 10:23:23 GMT 11
Isn't she married to one of them? It isn't often that I praise our dear Andy Lloyd in comparison to other composers, but at least he didn't write excessive gratuitous solos for Sarah Brightman in the shows he wrote for her. I swear, that's the only quibble I have with the 94 recording; the fact that sometimes I just want to get in there and tell Linda to shut up and let Anthony sing again ~Julia |
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Post by Tinechorwen on Jul 11, 2003 14:28:05 GMT 11
Isn't she married to one of them? Lol, are you serious? Hehehe, well...that explains alot! True about Sarah Brightman, although an annoying bit about Phantom is the excessive emphasis on Christine...I mean she's a lovely girl, (and my character, so I probably shouldn't bag her) but still, Erik is cooler! Apparently the lesson that we should learn is that it doesn't matter how talented, (or in SB's how untalented) you are, get in with the composer guys. |
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