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Post by Buff on Jul 18, 2006 9:50:20 GMT 11
A friend of mine spoke to a committee member of the Players yesterday. The story is that Judy Davies spoke to Michelle Cripps (Player's vice-president) and said that PTB didn't have the rights to "A Chorus Line" but she wasn't going to tell the Examiner that. Judy then asked if the Player's would give the rights over to PTB if they had no plans to produce the show. This is second hand information, but I have no reason not to trust my friend's word on this. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Buff  |
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Post by michaelblack on Jul 18, 2006 10:48:05 GMT 11
Again, its second hand, but I've heard that PTB never had the rights, and that PTB are relying on the Players not to appear as 'spoilers'...
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Post by jacko on Jul 18, 2006 15:04:17 GMT 11
Actually you are both wrong. And I have to say my original opinion was wrong.
PTB do have the rights to the show and do have a written agreement from Tams-Witmak. And yes, Buff, Tams-Witmark have been known to make mistakes. But how on earth this one got in the paper without some vindictive help from someone is beyond me...
Of course, whilst we're on the topics of rights to shows... there are several shining examples of local theatre wannabe producers who have staged shows WITHOUT the rights. Shows like cut-down versions of The Wizard of Oz... Mary Poppins... etc etc... and I don't see anyone calling for a public flogging for that person's activitites.....
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Post by Buff on Jul 18, 2006 16:12:58 GMT 11
Of course, whilst we're on the topics of rights to shows... there are several shining examples of local theatre wannabe producers who have staged shows WITHOUT the rights. Shows like cut-down versions of The Wizard of Oz... Mary Poppins... etc etc... and I don't see anyone calling for a public flogging for that person's activitites..... Maybe people should "out" these renegade groups as well. It's unfair on the groups that do the right thing. Thanks for the post, jacko. Hope you post more in the future on, hopefully, more positive topics!  Buff |
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Post by michaelblack on Jul 19, 2006 1:14:26 GMT 11
Maybe Jacko, did you think, that you just 'outed' those renegade Mary Poppins producers? Good on you mate. Working for the forces of good.
Now, onto the business... the word is, from other producers, from the media, from any bogan you ask in the Mall, the word is that PTB have cocked up. Big time.
Publicity is one thing. Integrity another.
Regardless of the legal situation, this is hurting PTB's rep real bad. Rights have never been a question for any other theatre group - if there is any grey area, maybe the "management" of PTB (Pass The Buck?) need to look at MAKING SURE instead of ASSUMING. As a bloke who values proper remuneration of artists and creators, this is not a grey area for me. Get it right the first time or get out.
MB
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Post by jacko on Jul 19, 2006 8:42:31 GMT 11
Newsflash for michaelblack.
I think you had better study up on Tasmania's defamation laws. You will need them if you continue down this path.
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Post by Buff on Jul 19, 2006 9:31:11 GMT 11
This is obviously a subject that is going to create some friction, both here on the board and in "real" life. If it starts to get too heated, I will start to edit/delete and moderate in general. If you are not happy with the fact that I'm part of the discusssion and can moderate, I'll get Talissa to step in. Buff |
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Post by Buff on Jul 19, 2006 9:36:44 GMT 11
In the Examiner today, it was reported that the scheduled meeting for Monday didn't not happen due to one of the parties have another meeting that clashed. The groups will be meeting later this week. Buff |
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Post by howies on Jul 19, 2006 13:16:42 GMT 11
Bravo Buff re moderation!
Unfortunately it is human nature to bitch & gossip about different people/groups, but let's remember here that there are real people's reputations at stake here, which are often being dragged thru the mud with 3rd, 4th and 5th hand info. And often these stories are fueled by those with a personal axe to grind.
I've got no reason to doubt PTB's bona fides and good intentions - nor the Player's for that matter.
And what's the worst that could happen? Two productions? Fantastic!!
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Post by tash on Jul 21, 2006 0:11:55 GMT 11
Every man and his dog has their opinion on the situation, but as aforementioned, the vast majority is "information" that is third, fourth and fifth-hand. There are a lot of people with their own personal agendas operating within the Launceston theatre scene, and it's unfortunate their actions damage not only the integrity of theatre, but of hard-working artists involved. People are getting hurt. Not everyone has the resilience to weather it.
The situation at hand has been exacerbated by the actions of one anonymous person, who has managed to access classified information and distribute it via email to various people involved in Launceston theatre. Whilst bearing illuminating content, some recipients are questioning how this person was able to access their personal details.
The sad thing is, this is not the first time that people have deliberately gone out of their way to sabotage the reputation of others, relying on a campaign of misinformation to further their own interests. Launceston theatre is still recovering from the fallout from that particular instance, and, as one of many picking up the pieces, it is not an easy journey.
I could have a lot to say on this topic, being the person implicated as the cause of this situation - but I have just one thing to say:
Good luck to whomever ends up producing Chorus Line.
Everyone else - move on.
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Post by Buff on Jul 24, 2006 12:42:54 GMT 11
The situation at hand has been exacerbated by the actions of one anonymous person, who has managed to access classified information and distribute it via email to various people involved in Launceston theatre. Whilst bearing illuminating content, some recipients are questioning how this person was able to access their personal details. I hadn't heard about that. It's low that: 1. they are accessing the information; 2. they are using it to be destructive; 3. they don't have the guts to put their name to it. My personal opinion, if you have a problem that you think needs addressing, go about it the right way and be brave enough to put your name behind it. Buff |
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Post by The Know on Jul 24, 2006 15:01:03 GMT 11
Well, if anyone can shed any light on just who is "Peter Jackson" then I think we'll all get a lot of answers.
Certainly a number of people around this town seem to know this person intimately... and have immediate access to information that Mr Jackson has gathered by what can only be questionable means.
Then of course, as raised by Tash, there is the question as to how "Peter Jackson" accessed a number of personal email addresses (without their permission) of various members of the theatre community.
But those in "THE KNOW" refuse to identify Mr Jackson of course!
I agree with Buff. If someone's got a problem, them have the balls to stand up, raise the issue and back it up by signing your REAL name.
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Post by sendintheclowns on Jul 24, 2006 18:55:58 GMT 11
There are a lot of people with their own personal agendas operating within the Launceston theatre scene, and it's unfortunate their actions damage not only the integrity of theatre, but of hard-working artists involved. People are getting hurt. Not everyone has the resilience to weather it. Here here - wouldn't it be nice to do a show with no nasty stuff - but unfortunately this is the nature of theatre "big personalities" I know personally I do shows - to have fun, meet people and perform!! When you decide to be involved in a show you hope that people are honest and understand that everyone involved think long and hard about the time that they are about to dedicate. |
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Post by sendintheclowns on Jul 24, 2006 18:57:28 GMT 11
A One Night Stand which will be performed in August is coming along well - let's enjoy what Launceston theatre has to offer - A fantastic pool of talent |
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Post by sendintheclowns on Jul 24, 2006 19:12:01 GMT 11
Well, if anyone can shed any light on just who is "Peter Jackson" then I think we'll all get a lot of answers. Is he the guy that rides horses and smokes ;D ;D ;D ;D Sorry but whoever he or she is - picked a pretty interesting name... Let's just get on our horses and ride into the spotlight while a gentle stream of smoke wanders onto stage.....sorry being silly I know  |
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